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Post by uchihaitachi on Jul 24, 2016 19:31:41 GMT
Hi, hoping a classical musician, with an engineering background could answer this question. I am aware Ethan is an accomplished cellist so his feedback will be greatly welcomed too.
As a classically trained pianist, I have found most speakers with popular mainstream consumer reputation to be rather odd sounding, boosts in basses, or upper frequencies or both. Listening to specific instruments like the violin sounds odd, especially piano, where scales would be quite uneven due to the artificial boosts or recesses in the response.
And recently after hearing some speakers a few Mackies and Yamahas, I found them much better, and presents the music in a much more realistic non coloured about manner. Despite popular consumer opinion considering these monitors 'boring' etc.
1. I was curious if this experience was common amongst other classical musicians? 2. I was wondering if such accuracy focused monitors are good to have for listening rather than mixing and so on? 3. Following from the previous question, if I want to get frequency neutral speakers, should I get monitors or floor standing ones for casual listening? 4. Any recommendations for such listening? Within the 2000USD range if possible.
Unfortunately I don't have many opportunities to try out speakers before, so advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jul 25, 2016 20:20:50 GMT
1. Better speakers are pretty accurate, but the larger issue is often the room. Of course, the original recording and microphone placement also have a huge affect on how "real" a recording sounds. I know a lot of classical musicians, and some care more than others about audio quality. I can't say I've noticed a trend any different from others who enjoy music. 2. Yes, good speakers are good for listening and for mixing! I use professional monitors in my living room: Ethan's Living Room Home Theater Tour3+4. I tend to favor box-type speakers on stands rather than large floor standers on the floor. Good box speakers can play very loudly! I'm a big fan of Mackie 824 series speakers, though there are many other brands and models that are highly regarded costing $2,000 per pair or less. --Ethan
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Post by uchihaitachi on Jul 26, 2016 11:58:49 GMT
Thanks for the reply Ethan!
So in your experience, musicians don't have a more prominent leaning towards flat response speakers?
For the Mackies you refer to, would you recommend getting a subwoofer unit, or is this unnecessary?
Thanks again!
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jul 26, 2016 18:00:46 GMT
I think musicians have better ear training, but not necessarily more appreciation of high fidelity. Some do of course! But so do some non-musicians.
My preference for stereo music is full range speakers without a subwoofer. The Mackie 824s are flat to below 40 Hz, which is plenty low.
--Ethan
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Post by uchihaitachi on Jul 28, 2016 15:39:04 GMT
Thanks again!
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Post by arnyk on Aug 8, 2016 9:24:05 GMT
As a classically trained pianist, I have found most speakers with popular mainstream consumer reputation to be rather odd sounding, boosts in basses, or upper frequencies or both. Listening to specific instruments like the violin sounds odd, especially piano, where scales would be quite uneven due to the artificial boosts or recesses in the response. Many of those boosts and cuts you mention are likely to be due to room interactions. Consumer speakers as a rule tend to have wide directionality, and that engages the room more completely. The room can be good or bad, but most residential rooms are pretty bad. IME well designed gear of any kind (audio, cars, tools, etc.) is often boring. Of course a lot of the excitement in non-boring gear comes from its flaws. Pro audio speakers especially the Mackies you mention are generally more directionally controlled than consumer speakers, and that makes them more tolerant of their working environment. I happen to often use a trio of JBL Pro LSR 308s which are also made to have controlled directionality.
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Post by Hexspa on Aug 9, 2016 7:27:40 GMT
"...boring..." Ya. I was mildly disappointed with my B&W 600 series. Sure, it's their mid/entry but.. Not like the Aiwa boomboxes - dang.
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