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Post by leisures on Nov 5, 2016 5:07:42 GMT
  Pics: imgur.com/a/7f9fbHey all, I know very little (read many articles but don't know much) about acoustics and would greatly appreciate some advice on table position regarding a small bedroom 'studio' I am currently building in my new home. I have gotten a interior designer friend to render 2 different table positions in my bedroom that I will primarily use for producing and rough mixing for hobby purposes. The pictures are in the link above. The problem is there are permanent columns and beams that cannot be demolished, and they make an odd room shape, especially in the second position. I will install floor to ceiling absorbers on the red marked points and when mixing, put up more absorbers on reflection points and back wall. Would be great to get some feedback on which position would be better for overall acoustics, given the space constraints of the small and oddly shaped room which I will also have to use as a bedroom. Other table positions would also be possible, but I think these two are the most obvious choices. Overall advice on where else I would need to put up treatment would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance |
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 5, 2016 12:55:28 GMT
I would use the alcove position. My reasoning is that your RFZ panel won't cover a window.
-m
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Post by leisures on Nov 7, 2016 5:15:32 GMT
Thanks for your reply! Initially that was what I was thinking too, but I think I can have temporary panels that can be removed when not mixing.
I like the 2nd position too (alcove), but is the ceiling overhang not problematic for the sound?
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 7, 2016 17:26:11 GMT
Just put some thick absorption there. You can do 6-8" of rigid with or without an air gap. You can also put fluffy behind it.
You can move panels but two reasons I wouldn't: 1. it's a pain and 2. your bedroom is so nice that it'd be cool if you integrate your studio into the aesthetic and not have to have random stuff laying around.
-m
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Post by rock on Nov 8, 2016 1:57:40 GMT
I agree with the alcove and that adding the header space with insulation there would be acoustically good... but since you have that really cool indirect lighting in there too, it may be tricky to fashion absorption material in there and keep the indirect lighting. That said, there will be compromises to achieving optimum bass trapping up there but some absorption can only help.
Cheers,
Rock
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Post by rock on Nov 8, 2016 2:00:35 GMT
Looks like 100 posts is a milestone! Wo Ho! Full Member Status! Do I get a blue blazer or a pin or something?
Cheers,
Rock
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 8, 2016 23:26:57 GMT
Looks like 100 posts is a milestone! Wo Ho! Full Member Status! Do I get a blue blazer or a pin or something? Cheers, Rock No but you get to say, "Apache!" without injecting any sense of irony. |
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Post by leisures on Nov 9, 2016 6:31:45 GMT
Thank you kindly for both your replies. I will be using the alcove position as advised. Just so I understand correctly do you mean adding 6"-8" of insulation at the corner of the ceiling overhang? Picture attached below with suggested absorption in blue. And if by the indirect lighting you mean the one inside the alcove ceiling, I have already decided to plaster the whole ceiling flat--compromises are indeed needed!  |
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Post by rock on Nov 9, 2016 13:38:22 GMT
First of all: Are those two photos of the same room? If it is, is the bed in the same place? It's a little confusing to me as I see different furnishings behind the bed in each photo and I can't quite get the "big picture".
Anyway, what I think I mean about the "indirect lighting" is that I'm guessing that there is a light fixture hidden behind the header wall over which you have marked Blue. I'm not sure because I can't see it from the photo but in the other photo, I can kinda see up behind the header wall on the left side of the photo. But again, note that I am disoriented and confused as each photo seems to tell a conflicting story about your room layout.
About adding insulation, I was suggesting covering the "ceiling"area directly above your head "inside" the alcove thereby obscuring any ceiling fixtures...including the assumed "indirect lighting" if it exists. The reason for this is for early reflections as opposed to bass trapping. Your blue marked area would be fine for bass traps as would the other ceiling/wall corners in your room. Getting back to early reflections, the zebra print is the exact place where an early reflection absorber is needed... and also one on the opposing side.
As for the Red marked areas, they are very close to the RFZ so I would suggest the corner bass trap panels at ear level on the sides and in front be constructed as "broadband" absorbers without front membrane. But above and below ear level and in the side ends of the front ceiling/wall corner, use front membrane (foil, paper or plastic) for improved bass absorption.
Cheers,
Rock
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Post by leisures on Nov 10, 2016 8:17:46 GMT
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the confusion. The two are of the same room but with different layouts as rendered by my designer friend. The first is with the table on the wall and the wardrobe in the alcove and the second is the reverse.
The indirect lighting/hole in the ceiling has already been patched over with plaster so now it is just a flat ceiling inside the alcove position.
Thanks you both very much for your suggestions, including where to put paper-front traps and I will follow these suggestions exactly!
Much appreciated.
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