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Post by pbnjay on Sept 23, 2018 18:23:24 GMT
Hi Ethan, I've been reading your acoustic information, and it is enlightening to say the least. I also hear you are a cellist as well! I notice that most acoustic information is for control rooms etc, and I have a specific question for cello practice rooms (the size of normal modern bedrooms 150-200 square feet). Could you give some practical advise for treating a cello practice room that also would be good for recording. (i.e. reflective floors are good but I worry about a room that is too dead with absorption). Wondering about ball park percentages of coverage on which walls and diffusion/absorption. Here are some recordings with a borrowed Schoeps MK4 and the rest with a DPA 4061: www.youtube.com/watch?v=596LINH3NVw&list=PL7W7QjWeutRWQyWVkLuD2emOyNUVYN8ht&index=31Hope everyone has a nice day.
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Post by rock on Sept 24, 2018 3:47:17 GMT
Your recordings sound great! Bravo! Usually a recording sounds boxy or canny in a small room but yours sound bigger with smoother reverb and a a bit of decay as if you used a fine digital reverb (easy to come by these days). Close micing helps poor acoustics. Your room looks to be untreated so for recording and practicing, eliminating flutter echoes and reflections from walls will help if your listening/playing position sounds like it needs help but your recordings sound good to me.
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Post by Hexspa on Sept 24, 2018 5:07:28 GMT
I have a specific question for cello practice rooms (the size of normal modern bedrooms 150-200 square feet). Could you give some practical advise for treating a cello practice room that also would be good for recording. (i.e. reflective floors are good but I worry about a room that is too dead with absorption). Wondering about ball park percentages of coverage on which walls and diffusion/absorption. Section 2.2.2 of this book, beginning on page 39 talks about rehearsal rooms. In short, you want some absorption for modal control and some diffusion to reduce room coloration and enhance envelopment.
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Post by Ethan Winer on Sept 24, 2018 16:38:32 GMT
The ambience of a small bedroom will never sound as good as a larger concert hall, or even a medium size school band room. So the best you can aim for is a neutral sound with minimal reflections and comb filtering. You can also minimize "room sound" by putting the microphone close to the instrument, though that can have other problems. I agree with Rock that your recording sounds good, but I still hear a hint of room sound. The standard treatment for a bedroom size space is to cover about 30 percent of the wall surface with absorbers in a stripes or checkerboard pattern. A cello can play down to 65 Hz, though there isn't much energy that low. But still, a cello is a "bass" instrument, so the absorption should be at least two inches thick if not three inches. When recorded the sound will be clean, but dry. So then you can add reverb with software later. Even a free reverb plug-in will sound better than the natural ambience of a small room.
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Post by pbnjay on Sept 24, 2018 19:05:03 GMT
Dear Rock, Hexspa, and Ethan. I really want to thank you for your comments and advice. And also, thank you for listen to a little bit of my recordings.
Ethan, thank you for your specific advice on percentages of coverage and thickness!
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Post by Ethan Winer on Sept 26, 2018 16:51:02 GMT
Okay!
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