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Post by peterbatah on Nov 13, 2018 20:17:06 GMT
Hello all. Oftentimes I have read that placing a couch at the back of your recording / listening room is never a bad idea. I plan on putting one in anyway but was wondering. Cloth vs. Leather. Does it really make a difference. Thank you so much. Peter
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 14, 2018 1:53:21 GMT
It probably also depends on what's in the couch i.e. insulation. The thickness of the leather vs. the fabric matters as well as the finish on each. If you can, try out both couches and see which gives the best result.
Another thing to concern yourself with is the flat reflection coming off the wall. Anyone sitting in that couch will experience comb filtering effects. Some absorption should help or, if you can space the couch a ways off the wall, even a diffuser.
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Post by deanm on Nov 14, 2018 2:04:09 GMT
hi Peterbatah,
here's my my 2 cent answer (and it's probably a rip off at that..)
I think leather is much more reflective at mid and high frequencies. I don't really know how much more reflective it is than cloth. I guess that would also depend on what kind of cloth you're comparing it to.
How far behind you will the couch be? If 10ft or less, these would be considered early reflections, which could obscure transients and/or your sense of stereo imaging at the mix position. Once you get past 10 feet (20 foot round-trip between when the direct signal hits your ears, vs. the reflection coming back), it's considered a late reflection, which your brain is better at distinguishing as a separate event. Also, the additional distance attenuates the sound wave as it spreads out.
Ethan talks about a leather couch in his home theater / listening room, and about how the high back on it causes comb filtering when sitting in it. The comb filtering was severe enough that he treated it with thick terry cloth to tame the reflections. Which indicates to me that leather is substantially more reflective than terry cloth.
I don't think that comb filtering is the issue in your case, mind you, unless you are sitting on the couch to mix. I only cite Ethan's example to back up my assertion that leather is much more reflective.
-d
(edit - the comb filtering I'm talking about in my reply is different than Hexspa talked about, in the sense that I was talking about the reflection off the leather, and Hexspa is talking about the reflection off the rear wall. I agree that you should treat the rear wall if you haven't already.)
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Post by peterbatah on Nov 14, 2018 2:55:06 GMT
Hexspa deanm Thank you both for chiming in. I haven't purchased anything as yet and ask because I had been offered a two seat leather couch. It would be a place for guests to sit and would be located approx 12' away from the mixing desk. I was leaning more toward a fabric type couch anyway which seemed to make more sense to me. My wife always told me to stay away from preowned furniture. I also plan on placing some absorption panels above it (back wall) Attachments:
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 14, 2018 15:43:05 GMT
Maybe it's the gypsy in me but take the leather love seat. Sure, it's preowned but you can clean it and inspect it for parasites. It looks amazing so there's always the vibe factor.
Remember: 80% of what we hear is what we see! Actually false but there is some truth to it.
Either way, you should be fine. Like I've said before, your primary acoustic movers are broadband absorption and diffusion. Don't get me wrong, I get significant bass attenuation from a stack of bedding in my room. Even so, I wouldn't consider that my first wave attack nor use that exclusively to treat a room.
deanm I've noticed you've been responding to a lot of posts lately. In my opinion, you've been giving very good advice and I want to commend you on that. Cheers.
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Post by deanm on Nov 14, 2018 22:08:07 GMT
Thanks, Hexspa. I like to think some of this forum has been rubbing off on me.
Hmmm... that is a good looking couch. Wish I had room for something like that in here.
-d
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Post by peterbatah on Nov 14, 2018 22:23:03 GMT
Hmmm... that is a good looking couch. Wish I had room for something like that in here. -d Thank you deanm . The person that was offering it to me has gone MIA. If I miss out on this opportunity, then it's on my lovely wife. She is the one who originally told me to stay away from pre-owned furniture about a week ago. Oh well, let the cards fall where they may! Have a good one. Peter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 10:12:30 GMT
That's a nice looking couch, hope you get it. I'd take that.
I also had a little red couch in my room, it made an improvement in bass FR flatness. But i decided to get rid of it, cause i have to fit a drum set every now and then, and my room is small.
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Post by peterbatah on Nov 17, 2018 14:23:18 GMT
@pasim Thank you. Unfortunately, I did not get back to its owner quickly enough. He took this as a sign that I was disinterested. In any case, my room is far from being complete and have little to no space to store it in the meantime. Ahh, such is life. It just wasn't in the stars. No biggie. There will be others when the time is right. Have a great weekend.
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 17, 2018 20:06:36 GMT
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