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Post by HST on Jun 3, 2016 2:09:59 GMT
I recently moved and now have a somewhat irregular basement room to use as a listening space. Average measurements are 7.5 high, 16.5 ft wide and 20 ft in length. Being a finished basement, the floor is concrete with wall-to-wall carpeting. Outside walls are cast concrete built out with studded walls and sheetrock. The result (before treatment) is the dreaded somewhat "dead" room with a boomy bass (major peaks at 35, and 65-100 Hz).
Obstacles such as doorways, a hallway and a built-in storage cupboard, etc. result in only one "normal" right-angle corner in which to install a corner trap. Wall space to install membrane traps without making the room seem claustrophobic is also a bit limited, BUT there are two window wells with large 46" x 46" windows, representing roughly the same surface area as two 2' x 8' membrane traps.
The window recess is a good 6 inches, so this presents an opportunity to build two 4 to 6 inch deep traps that won't intrude into the room.
My question: with nominal dimensions of 46" x 46" x 4" deep, what would be the ideal material to use for the membrane surface that would result in optimal absorption at 80 - 100 Hz.? The construction plans for the 2' x 4' traps call for 1/4" plywood and are said to be effective from 80 - 300 Hz. Would this stay the same, or is there an alternate material that should be considered given that I have and inch or two of extra depth to work with?
thanks for reading and commenting
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jun 3, 2016 20:13:05 GMT
The range of absorption you mentioned is for two different styles of plywood bass traps. Each trap type handles only one octave or so at most. This is why these days I suggest thick rigid fiberglass type bass traps instead of membrane traps made with plywood. If you can post a photo or two of your space I can probably make more suggestions. I'll mention now that rectangle rooms have 12 corners, not just four where walls meet other walls.
--Ethan
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Post by hst on Jun 7, 2016 3:35:23 GMT
I made a floorplan for the room, but can't figure out how to attach it. I registered as a member of the forum, but still not seeing an "attach" button.
Howard
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jun 7, 2016 20:42:01 GMT
There should be an Add Attachment button at the top right of the "make a new post" screen.
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Post by hst on Jun 8, 2016 16:46:10 GMT
Here is an attachment of the room diagram. Part of the challenge is that this is a typical basement ceiling - partially at 7.5 ft and partially at 7 ft as there is a bulkhead for mechanicals. This creates an interesting 6 inch "tray" that could accept triangular trapping, but I don't believe that the dimensions of such a corner trap would be effective at low enough frequencies. The photo is of the rear wall that has the one "normal" vertical corner. Plans for this wall is to add stacked corner traps in the vertical corner and also to run one along the ceiling/wall interface. LP shelving will take up the remainder of this wall. Electronics are housed in AV furniture in the recess on the opposite end of the room. Green wedges indicate speaker placement. Speakers are dipoles, so I want to add diffusion panels to that (asymmetric) front wall to reduce the effect of different arrival times of reflections due to the recess. One of the windows is visible in the photo, and the depth and size is what gave me the idea of using them to install membrane traps. Thanks, Attachments:
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Post by Rock on Jun 8, 2016 21:56:18 GMT
I realize you are interested in membrane traps but I have windows somewhat like yours and I just made 4" thick mineral wool absorbers to fit snug into the window frames. While I was at it, I cut a piece of cement board to fit behind the absorber to help with transmission to the outside. I guess it works good enough since the police have not knocked on my door yet...and my wife used to like to look out the window but apparently not enough to argue with me about it: )
Cheers, Rock
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Post by hst on Jun 8, 2016 23:41:07 GMT
Thanks, Rock
The same thought occurred to me after reading up on the subject. Sure would be a lot simpler project :-)
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jun 10, 2016 16:54:14 GMT
Yes, in a room this size just use rigid fiberglass. As thick as possible for bass traps and behind you, thinner is okay at reflection points.
--Ethan
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Post by hst on Jun 10, 2016 23:48:21 GMT
Thanks, Ethan
Great Forum, by the way, and the Room Measuring article is worth it's weight in gold. Downloaded the Room EQ Wizard software and will be shopping for a mic. The Dayton Audio USB unit looks like a good deal.
Thanks again
Howard
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