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Post by jules on Dec 31, 2016 18:15:09 GMT
Hello Ethan, I'm reaching out to you because my friend and I are looking for a house to rent. We live in France. We found a really nice place with 3 bedrooms. 2 are upstairs and the bottom one is (I think) not really suitable because its floor is made of tiles. We have a rear picture of one of the two upstairs bedrooms. Both have a slanted ceiling. The one we have a picture of is smaller than the other one. They are of the same shape, except for the window & door placement. We will use this room as a recording AND a control room. We really want to have the best acoustics possible since I always knew that it was the most important part of making things sound good. We will hire a professional acoustic engineer who will come to make the measurements (he said it was around a thousand euros just for measurements..) and we will then buy the treatment accordingly. Here is the picture I was talking about: ROOMAs I said, the other room (the one we think about using for the studio) is larger and longer (not by a LOT but still bigger). I unfortunately don't have the exact dimensions nor pictures of it. I will ask for them on Monday though! My question is: - Do you think (if the information I just gave you is enough) it is possible to achieve very good sounding recordings & mixes in this environment? Thank you! Oh, almost forgot. Happy new year to everyone reading! Jules C. |
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 1, 2017 5:21:07 GMT
Note to self: charge €1000 to measure rooms.
Hi Jules. You'd be better off buying a €90 mic, downloading Room EQ Wizard and measuring your room yourself.
But I think if you stuff enough treatment in there you should do ok.
By all means, if you get that professional acoustic engineer to measure your room, let me know what you get for that kind of money!
Happy New Year
-G
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Post by jules on Jan 1, 2017 5:48:07 GMT
Hi Hexpa,
Thanks for the answer. The thing that worries me the most is the sloped ceiling (the other side of the room being flat). Where should I place my desk/monitors then? If I'm sitting and the sloped ceiling is behind me, there will be a window at my right which is critical to treat if I'm not mistaken? Could I just put some absorber on the window while still being able to open&close it? Should I get specific curtains?
How will I be able to use diffusers if the back of the room is sloped?
The professional acoustician is the only one (or one of the very few) in the area hence why he charges a lot maybe, I don't know. He just said it was 1000 euros to come and measure (maybe indicating exactly what and where should i put the treatment). I'm not really into DIY since I'm not good at those things but I really want the best thing possible that the room allows.
Thanks again
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 2, 2017 3:42:03 GMT
Hi jules.
There's a thread on this forum which contains a situation similar to yours.
In that instance, I remember Ethan suggesting to put the slope behind the LP.
His reasoning was you want most of your dimension to your rear.
Plus the front wall is less of an acoustic issue than the rear.
Putting the 90 degree wall behind you, in contrast, will create a flat wave reflection which is less desireable.
So, essentially, you want to treat that sloped situation as a giant corner and fill it with fluffy insulation.
Regarding your side walls, just hang RFZ panels as normal. You can always create a moveable situation if you want to use the window during non-critical listening times.
-m
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jan 7, 2017 19:13:23 GMT
Jules, you absolutely do not need to pay someone to measure this room. The solution is the same no matter what response is measured: Bass traps in the corners, and absorbers at the reflection points. It's that simple. In general rooms should get higher, or wider, in the rear. So use that for your orientation.
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 7, 2017 21:47:26 GMT
Jules, you absolutely do not need to pay someone to measure this room. The solution is the same no matter what response is measured: Bass traps in the corners, and absorbers at the reflection points. It's that simple. In general rooms should get higher, or wider, in the rear. So use that for your orientation. But last time you said the tilt should go behind. |
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jan 10, 2017 19:40:11 GMT
^^^ Link?
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 11, 2017 2:45:22 GMT
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jan 12, 2017 18:27:56 GMT
Yeah, but that's a crazy room with crazy angles. A ceiling that's slightly angled left to right would be okay, but this room is nuts. It's not even really a room. Plus I was careful to say "Usually it's better for a room to get wider or higher in the rear."
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Post by jules on Jan 12, 2017 23:32:02 GMT
Hey, thanks for the answer, appreciate it. I think I will just send pictures & dimensions to GIK Acoustics since I'm in France, and buy the treatment they tell me to buy. Does it sound like a better idea than hiring an acoustic engineer even if on internet they can't hear how the room sounds?
Peace
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Post by rock on Jan 13, 2017 2:06:42 GMT
Yeah, that one with in the attic was pretty crazy. I wonder what that guy ever did. It really would be nice if more OPs got back to us with their progress or results.
Cheers,
Rock
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 13, 2017 15:31:41 GMT
Hey, thanks for the answer, appreciate it. I think I will just send pictures & dimensions to GIK Acoustics since I'm in France, and buy the treatment they tell me to buy. Does it sound like a better idea than hiring an acoustic engineer even if on internet they can't hear how the room sounds? Peace Actually, the best idea is to send your info to Real Traps and let them take care of you. -m |
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 13, 2017 15:32:21 GMT
Yeah, that one with in the attic was pretty crazy. I wonder what that guy ever did. It really would be nice if more OPs got back to us with their progress or results. Cheers, Rock They love us and leave us. But not before calling us jibbering idiots. lol -m |
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Post by jules on Jan 15, 2017 2:43:45 GMT
Ok, I didn't know RealTraps shipped to France. I will have to pay quite a lot of taxes though.
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jan 16, 2017 15:14:45 GMT
We ship to Europe all the time, but it is more expensive than buying from companies already there.
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