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Post by AlainD on Apr 16, 2018 3:43:05 GMT
Hi everyone Having read and listen most Mr. Winer material and a lot of others, this is the place where I am confident to get acurate advices. First of all, congratulations for your work. So, here is my project. I have looked to sound treat my family room that serve as listening and home theater at the same time. The price and flexibility in dimensions / number of pannels didn't fit my expectations, so I decided to go DIY and doing it as a nice hobby project. Attached, floor plan and 3D view of possible finished product. I would guess this basement L shape room is some kind of a challenge to work out. It is currently under revamping, plaster and paint. As I remember, bass control is bad and lot of confusion in sound, specially at higher volume live performance applauses and high frequencies for example. I have learned that might be due to to much reflections. I was thinking of installing a heavy stage curtain (Memorable velour 25oz, the best for sound absorbing) along the 12' opening ( 12"x12" beam) and in front of the window. There is option in fullnessin the curtain from 50% to 100% or more, $$$😬 in order to create waving and more absorption. Considering the lenght, 12' out of 20', is that will deaden to much the room or it is a good starting point? As for the right front corridor opening, 2 choices came to my mind. 1- building a framed full height hinged panel (similar to a door) to emulate the left side dry wall. Absorbing panel could be incorporated to match eventual left side absoption panel. However corner bass trap would be missing on that side. 2- installing stage curtain, same as described above. What's your 2 cents on those options. I am planning to measure the room at the beggining and at each step of treatment. Still need to learn more of REW before. 🙂 Thanks for now, Alain D.
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Post by AlainD on Apr 16, 2018 3:54:04 GMT
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Post by Hexspa on Apr 16, 2018 10:01:02 GMT
Hey AlainD, welcome to the forum. I have a radical reconfiguration in mind. Let me show you what I mean. I suggest you reorient your setup 270 degrees. This gives you a few advantages. These positives include: improved front-facing symmetry, lengthwise orientation, and room for your satellites. You might not want this but consider the other benefits. You won't have to construct anything. You won't need an expensive curtain. You'll probably have instantly better sound where you sit. You can sell the other couch. Please take a day to consider it. If you put your couch around 8' from the TV then you'll have 2' behind you for the satellites. You'll free up your main hallway for walking. You'll be 2' closer to your TV so it'll appear bigger. Your first reflections will arrive later and be less damaging. The cliche is, "Measure twice, cut once." For rooms it's, "Chase the fattest rabbit, eat sooner."
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Post by AlainD on Apr 16, 2018 14:56:54 GMT
Thanks for your suggestion Hexspa. This configuration has already been looked at ten years ago, but discarted. Since then, my electronics are in the front right side opening, close to the door and all wires in wall. So I have to make this room sound the best it can within this configuration. I know it sucks. And I still need more than 2 seats 😉 Alain D
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Post by Hexspa on Apr 17, 2018 4:31:34 GMT
Thanks for your suggestion Hexspa. This configuration has already been looked at ten years ago, but discarted. Since then, my electronics are in the front right side opening, close to the door and all wires in wall. So I have to make this room sound the best it can within this configuration. I know it sucks. And I still need more than 2 seats 😉 Alain D I respect your decision but I fail to see why having your gear there matters. Is it because of the remote control? In that case, I reckon you could install a small mirror or something. Anyway, if you're going with your current configuration then it's on to the bass. A curtain, especially when folded, is a good absorber. Whether it's the most efficient option is doubtful. Any deadening you add is going to tighten up your acoustics. I'd like you to consider some soffits, super chunks, RFZ panels, and other traditional means. Of course, it's your call. Am I understanding you rightly? Your main interest is adding the curtain and building a door? Let me know if I'm off track. I must reiterate my vision for reorientation. If you are totally against it, I understand. Still, I believe it's worth a try if even 1% feasible. This is the perfect time to try, considering the room is currently torn apart. That one tweak can take your room from 'less than perfect' to 'wow, not bad'. There are so many advantages! Thanks.
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Post by AlainD on Apr 18, 2018 18:02:57 GMT
I tried a few things around. The room setup will have to remain as originaly proposed. Now the challenge to make it sound better is on. 1st step, I have to decide to put on the curtain or leave the space open and treat it with absobing panels / bass traps. Curtain would be around 700$ CAN. Expensive, but at the same time it will cut some sound from going upstairs and will make the room more intimate for movies / music listening. I am tempting to go for the curtain, but does it worth the investment? What is your tought on that?
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Post by Hexspa on Apr 19, 2018 8:18:39 GMT
I tried a few things around. The room setup will have to remain as originaly proposed. Now the challenge to make it sound better is on. 1st step, I have to decide to put on the curtain or leave the space open and treat it with absobing panels / bass traps. Curtain would be around 700$ CAN. Expensive, but at the same time it will cut some sound from going upstairs and will make the room more intimate for movies / music listening. I am tempting to go for the curtain, but does it worth the investment? What is your tought on that? Phew. $550 can buy you a lot more effectiveness. Hang a regular curtain and install absorption where you can. You can mount some 2' or thicker soffits in your available corners. Don't forget to treat your first reflection points. I think you can probably insulate the door or get a heavier one. My guess is that you'll be disappointed with the sound transmission using a curtain. If you're dead set on the curtain then do it. I would prefer dedicated absorbers but I can also appreciate the curtain's aesthetic.
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