First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room

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First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Mar 30, 2016 5:34:58 GMT

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Post by francisco on Mar 30, 2016 5:34:58 GMT

Hi there,

I would like to get your advise with a problem that hasn't allowed me to enjoy my DIY traps. After many failed attempts for the last 5 months, I don't care about acoustics anymore as I cannot spend even 30 mins inside the room without feeling suffocation/chest compression and air tightness. It is worth mentioning that this 3 x 3 room is air tight with the window closed without the traps.

Videos below are my finished traps placed in the living room as I wanted to test if I could breath properly, but once I placed myself between the early reflection panels, the breathing problem begins.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aDKx62igeA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kRDz1YVGW4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb724Ui9gBo

All the frames are stuffed with Knauff Ecose, then I removed the Knauff of 4 of the traps (early reflections) and tried EchoEliminator insulation from Bonded Logic. This product is full of dust and fluffy, so I vacuum cleaned the excess of dust and tried to place it in a pine frames(no varnish this time) and the result is the same, but less severe. I also tried roxul 40 and I cannot stay in the room with a single trap.

I grew up in a wood shop, so honestly I'm not allergic to anything related to wood. Something that seemed too easy to build is giving me a strong frustration. I work at Intel and all the rooms in the building are treated with 1" OWC 705 just wrapped in fabric and I feel Ok there. All the rooms have proper air conditioning systems so the air is always abundant and fresh there.

Before spending more money I would like to know if you guys recommend me to buy an air purifier. I wish I just bought ready-made acoustic panels !!!

Please Help!!
Francisco.

Last Edit: Mar 30, 2016 5:35:48 GMT by francisco

Ethan Winer Administrator Posts: 788	First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Mar 30, 2016 16:45:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ethan Winer on Mar 30, 2016 16:45:23 GMT If 703 at work is okay, maybe that's the best material for you at home too. I have no idea what else to suggest! --Ethan
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First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Mar 30, 2016 17:55:53 GMT

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Post by francisco on Mar 30, 2016 17:55:53 GMT

Thanks for your quick reply Ethan!

Yesterday I wrapped the Knauf fiber in plastic and reinserted back in its plywood frame and placed this trap back in the room. I couldn't breath either, so I conclude that there is a problem with frames because when I was building them, I applied varnish to the external frame and "a very strong parasite repellent in the internal part of the frames". I believe the parasite repellent is contributing to the breathing problems more than any insulation used. This is my first build, and I made this huge mistake !!!!

I built a new set of 6 pine frames, but this time I did not applying anything to the wood prior to wrapping them in fabric. This time I'm using a single test trap for experimenting and the insulation can be swapped very easily. However still need to find a way to rework my first set of traps.

Thanks again,
Francisco.

Hexspa Global Moderator Am I A Musician Or? Posts: 2,175	First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Mar 31, 2016 3:40:02 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Hexspa on Mar 31, 2016 3:40:02 GMT I had this problem when I first put up my panels. I think it's a claustrophobic response to a dead room. I haven't died yet...
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First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Apr 2, 2016 22:14:39 GMT

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Post by francisco on Apr 2, 2016 22:14:39 GMT

No it is not claustrophobia at all. I stapled fabric to a new odorless pine frame that I made, and it is a bit hard to breath in the room when that frame is there. It does not have any insulation yet, so I believe I should have washed the fabric before stapling it to the frame.

Hexspa Did you washed the fabric before stapling it to your frames??

Thanks,
Francisco.

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First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room Apr 2, 2016 23:03:45 GMT

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Post by Hexspa on Apr 2, 2016 23:03:45 GMT

Apr 2, 2016 22:14:39 GMT francisco said:

No it is not claustrophobia at all. I stapled fabric to a new odorless pine frame that I made, and it is a bit hard to breath in the room when that frame is there. It does not have any insulation yet, so I believe I should have washed the fabric before stapling it to the frame.

Hexspa Did you washed the fabric before stapling it to your frames??

Thanks,
Francisco.

No, sir I did not.

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First build DIY traps breathing problem in 3x3 meter room

Post by francisco on Mar 30, 2016 5:34:58 GMT

Post by Ethan Winer on Mar 30, 2016 16:45:23 GMT

Post by francisco on Mar 30, 2016 17:55:53 GMT

Post by Hexspa on Mar 31, 2016 3:40:02 GMT

Post by francisco on Apr 2, 2016 22:14:39 GMT

Post by Hexspa on Apr 2, 2016 23:03:45 GMT