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Post by bv2018 on Nov 11, 2018 19:11:52 GMT
Dear Ethan,
I have found your article on how to connect Analog Mixer to Soundcard(DAW)
It is very helpful and will bookmark it.
To be sure I understood please, I connected my sub outs from my cr1604vlz
, then going into my sound-card L & R inputs.
DAW is receiving signal o.k and when I want to hear the audio from my daw that I have just recorded
I just disengage the sub-out switches on my mixer instrument channel and switch on L/R instead on my Mackie mixer.
Regarding gain staging. I have a-lot of faders not to mention in my DAW.
So what I did for recording into my DAW, I first make sure that the channel fader and the main L/R output fader
plus my sub-out faders on my Mackie, are set to reach around zero db on my Mackie level meter (marked unity gain)
Then in my DAW I make sure that the level being recorded is at -12 db as you recommended.
Is this the right way I am doing it?
Much thanks for any help as I want to make sure that I have finally found the way around this.
Thank you
Brian
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Post by Ethan Winer on Nov 13, 2018 20:17:21 GMT
Thanks for moving this here, and sorry for the delay.
The Sub outs are for when you're pre-mixing some input channels. If you want to record each individual source onto its own track, and you have enough inputs on your sound card, then you should use the insert points. If you're recording only one or two tracks at a time you'll use only input channels 1 and 2 for recording.
When recording you'll set all the faders near 0, as you mentioned, then use the preamp gain / trim control to set the actual record level.
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Post by BV on Nov 13, 2018 22:46:58 GMT
Dear Ethan Thank you for coming back in helping me out.
Unfortunately I am still in doubt.
So, do I have to plug the two cables coming out from my soundcard into the insert slots (half way) on my mack 1 & 2 FOR STEREO?
If so, then, from where on my analog mixer , do I have to plug the other pair of cables to go into my soundcard ( to record in LOGIC)
Also, I wish that what is recorded into my lOGIC, the EQ from my analog mixer is also recorded in the audio recorded!
Brian
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Post by Ethan Winer on Nov 14, 2018 19:14:45 GMT
What are you trying to record? Overdubs one by one to build a song? Please describe exactly what you want to do.
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Post by BV on Nov 14, 2018 20:17:09 GMT
Thanks Ethan,
O.k , I am mostly using plugin synths .Therefore I am using my plugin synths as if I have a hardware synthesizer.
Therefore, before I used to connect this way:
1. From the main outs of my DUET, straight into my Line in channels of my MACKIE mixer 1 & 2 for stereo.
this way I can enhance further the plugin sound with the Mackie EQ bass etc ..
2. Then I would record back into my DUET's ins for recording into my Logic Pro X,by connecting a pair of cables coming from the MACKIE'S sub outs or main outs.
as I use the C/R outs of my Mackie into the amp and then to my speakers for VOLUME control of my speakers.
So this way I can record each synth sequence separately into my LOGIC or the whole MIX as audio wav files.
However as you know I have seen that you suggest the inserts use but still did not understand if it is better and why and most imprtantly
how to connect everything step by step .
Much thanks again
BRIAN
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Post by Ethan Winer on Nov 15, 2018 16:23:18 GMT
You're not doing this the right way in your DAW, and you're making the process much more complicated than needed. The whole point of plug-in synths is to avoid physical wiring, and the whole point of DAW software is to avoid sending tracks and instruments out to hardware for processing then back in again to record or mix. From what I can see of the music you make, you should work entirely in Logic using its plug-ins, then simply send the main stereo out to one of your Mixer's Stereo inputs for monitoring.
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Post by BV on Nov 15, 2018 20:02:38 GMT
Yes that is how I am connected. The only addition is that I am processing what's coming into my Mackie with it's EQ and then If i want to re-record the enhanced track, I just
record back into my DAW from the main or tape outs of my MACKIE MIXER. And to avoid any Loops I disengage the output of the armed Audio channel in my DAW so it will not transmit as well but leaving the Inputs of the DAW only as active!
I recorded in the box, it is a good sound and with today's plugins one can be close ore even match a panoramic warm recording.Of course making a good mix is most important.
But for me I am still attracted in continuing to use my Mackie mixer combined with my DAW, as I think the sound opens up even further.
Much thanks Ethan for your time and advice, I will keep them bookmarked
Best
Brian
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Post by Ethan Winer on Nov 16, 2018 19:55:04 GMT
I think it's a myth that sending DAW tracks out through a hardware mixer (or summing box) improves the sound. All that can do is add some amount of noise and distortion. When these things are compared carefully, the perception of "it sounds better" almost always goes away.
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 16, 2018 22:19:03 GMT
But muh warm mixes, Ethan. lol
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