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Post by chip on Nov 30, 2019 5:41:56 GMT
I saw that Sonarworks is having a black friday sale on their reference 4 product. Everybody and their mother raves about this product, but I'm still a little skeptical. By itself, I don't think it can magically save an untreated room. But what about a room that is acoustically treated? Is this a useful tool when used in addition to acoustic treatment or should I save my money and put it elsewhere?
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Post by rock on Nov 30, 2019 15:24:59 GMT
Thanks for posting. I didn't know anything about this so I did a quick search and found this review: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7GJvJmy1wSo in the review it is clearly stated that this does not correct room modes and ringing, probably not first reflections either. This is for after you've done your complete acoustic treatment if you wish to further correct your speaker EQ. In the review, he says it gives you the "Last 1%". The reviewer likes the product but also points out it's shortcomings. If you have not already, please watch the video review, he goes through all the details of the setup. Bottom line, from what I know now I'd suggest you treat your room as completely and as best you can. Only then should you use this kind of correction. |
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Post by Hexspa on Nov 30, 2019 18:48:39 GMT
Plus the system-wide latency is like 54ms! You can use it as a plugin with zero latency though. I'm interested in this but it's relatively expensive and unnecessary.
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Post by chip on Nov 30, 2019 20:30:04 GMT
Thanks for the responses! I came up with one other question if you would oblige me. I was planning on putting bass traps in the corners of my back walls, floor to ceiling. The only issue is that one of the corners is close to the door and I can't effectively put bass traps there between the floor and the mid way point. I'd only be able to put a bass trap near the ceiling in the corner where the door is.
My effective problem is that I can bass trap one corner much more than the other corner. The question is if I should do it or not. If I bass trap one corner more than the other, it's asymmetrical. I'm not sure if that's a problem. If I don't bass trap one corner more than the other, if I keep it even, then everything is symmetrical, but maybe I'm missing out on trapping more sound.
Should I...
A) Put as many bass traps on the corners as possible, despite the asymmetry? I'd have 3 bass traps in one corner and only 1 bass traps in the other corner.
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B) Match the corners to each other so that they're symmetrical. Put 1 bass trap on each corner's ceiling. Even though there's space for 2 more traps in one of the corners, this keeps everything in symmetry.
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Post by Hexspa on Dec 1, 2019 3:23:26 GMT
Pics help but symmetry matters most from your ears forward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 7:22:30 GMT
This sonarworks sells like crazy among "producers" and "mixers". Many of them have hardly any treated room, and they praise how good the sonarwork is and you should get it too, to make your speakers translate and sound awesome.. haha.
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Post by Hexspa on Dec 16, 2019 17:29:19 GMT
Some people just don't realize until later. Even one particular trending artist with pastel acoustic treatment and Genelec Ones has stated in a recent article that she's only come to appreciate it now. I have Ethan to thank, as many of us do, for convincing me early on that it's a worthy investment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 17:55:57 GMT
Too many people just tend to forget the laws of physics or tries to break them. Especially musicians and audio people  . |
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Post by eddiespaghetti on Jan 7, 2020 17:16:05 GMT
Too many people just tend to forget the laws of physics or tries to break them. Especially musicians and audio people . To be fair, most don't know them to begin with! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 21:16:53 GMT
Too many people just tend to forget the laws of physics or tries to break them. Especially musicians and audio people . To be fair, most don't know them to begin with! Thats the problem! |
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Post by protools1 on Jan 12, 2020 0:27:40 GMT
Acoustical treatment is really important!!!! I thought SW was useless as well until I tried it for myself...One, its really easy to understand and gives a good listening position a chance, the latency is so little it doesn't bother at all, (not sure about 54ms, maybe in linear-phase) sound in mixing spot makes all frequencies in phase or as close as its possible...also helping with seeing what your room looks like for people who has trouble working with REW, from people i spoke to, mixes translate a lot better and most importantly speakers sounds a lot better. definitely a great tool to have in arsenal  |
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Post by Hexspa on Jan 12, 2020 10:27:49 GMT
When I checked their site, it said that the system-wide version of the software introduces 54ms of latency. The plugin, I believe, is zero-latency. Perhaps you could run your system audio through your DAW but that's difficult, unreliable, impractical or impossible depending on your setup.
I guess 54ms isn't too bad for anything other than tracking. There's always hardware monitoring and, besides, do you really need linear SPL when laying down keyboard parts? Normally, people use headphones so 'sonarworking' your speakers wouldn't even matter.
Apparently they have a headphone version too. I don't know man but there are certainly many ways to spend money in this game. If anyone buys this, I really hope they have their bigger issues sorted first. $250 isn't too bad but that'll definitely get you started with some preliminary absorption. More than likely, that's a better investment.
Then again, I've never used that software. I can confidently say, however, that what little EQ I have on my main out is but a pittance compared to what $250 of broadband has done.
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Post by protools1 on Jan 13, 2020 0:54:43 GMT
room acoustics is a must and this is just the icing on the cake, for me it corrects the image, frequency response and individual speaker to 0.1 db
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