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Post by studiosanctum on Jul 23, 2017 21:53:22 GMT
Wanting some opinions on my mixing suite's balance. Please see the photo from REW. Thanks!
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Post by cyclecamper on Jul 24, 2017 1:04:21 GMT
I'm a newbie to REW myself. Pretty nice I think, but insufficient info. How much does it change with mic location? Decent frequency response for indoors, but I'd want to know the RT60 at various frequency bands to get an idea of intelligibility. Can you display it as a 3-d waterfall plot to show decay time against frequency (and level of course). Need to see the time dimension, not just frequency response. That's why you treat a room instead of just EQ the system. But I would think it would look worse if you didn't have considerable absorption already. This is for monitor, mixdown and mastering, not a performance space so I'm assuming you're going for dead/dead. What are the room dimensions you are dealing with?
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jul 24, 2017 16:57:07 GMT
I agree with Clyde that this looks good, but there's not enough information to know how good. How big is the room? Where was the microphone when you measured? What speakers are you using that are this flat to below 20 Hz? And how much treatment do you have? But the short answer is this seems very good.
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Post by studiosanctum on Jul 24, 2017 19:37:00 GMT
I will be providing an update to the plot I posted in just a few days. I have managed to improve on this even more with ever so slight speaker placement adjustments as well as some shifting around of my room treatment. And cyclecamper, yes my room is dedicated to mixing and mastering. It is by no means a large room at 12x13x8 Ethan, sweeps were run at the mix position and I have quite a lot of treatment that was purchased from you a long long time ago. I am using Amphion Two18 monitors with a Dynaudio sub. The sub is just barely even trickling out sound to support the Amphions where they start to lose energy at round 50 Hz.
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jul 24, 2017 19:58:18 GMT
Also, is your graph smoothed at all? No need to reply now, I'll watch for your updated info.
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Post by studiosanctum on Jul 24, 2017 20:06:52 GMT
Also, is your graph smoothed at all? No need to reply now, I'll watch for your updated info. No smoothing at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 18:36:04 GMT
Wow! i think that looks "too good" for room that size! so it is good ! I'd like to see pictures from your room
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Post by Hexspa on Jul 26, 2017 19:26:28 GMT
Ya that's pretty extraordinary. Was any corrective room eq applied? How far was the mic from the speakers?
Thanks.
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Post by studiosanctum on Jul 28, 2017 1:08:10 GMT
Here is my latest graph after exhaustive subtle shifting of room treatment and speaker placement. I am thrilled with it. And yes, I have pretty heavy duty room treatment, no room eq, and no smoothing at all. Sweep done at my mix position. I am sitting in a 4' 6" triangle from the speakers.
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Post by Ethan Winer on Jul 28, 2017 14:48:27 GMT
The last time I saw a graph that flat was when I needed to trick someone in a forum who was being a jerk. So I put my measuring mic about one foot in front of the speaker and showed a very flat graph with very little ringing. So if this is real, and measured at the listening position, you have done one fantastic job.
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Post by studiosanctum on Jul 28, 2017 16:49:01 GMT
The last time I saw a graph that flat was when I needed to trick someone in a forum who was being a jerk. So I put my measuring mic about one foot in front of the speaker and showed a very flat graph with very little ringing. So if this is real, and measured at the listening position, you have done one fantastic job. Hand to God, this is legitimate. No trickery whatsoever on my part. It took a lot of work and a lot of treatment. Moral of the story; buy panels from Ethan.
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Post by Hexspa on Jul 29, 2017 3:19:37 GMT
The last time I saw a graph that flat was when I needed to trick someone in a forum who was being a jerk. So I put my measuring mic about one foot in front of the speaker and showed a very flat graph with very little ringing. So if this is real, and measured at the listening position, you have done one fantastic job. lol you would
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Post by Hexspa on Jul 29, 2017 3:20:23 GMT
The last time I saw a graph that flat was when I needed to trick someone in a forum who was being a jerk. So I put my measuring mic about one foot in front of the speaker and showed a very flat graph with very little ringing. So if this is real, and measured at the listening position, you have done one fantastic job. Hand to God, this is legitimate. No trickery whatsoever on my part. It took a lot of work and a lot of treatment. Moral of the story; buy panels from Ethan. Ok, you win the SPL warz. But the decay? How is?
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Post by Ethan Winer on Aug 4, 2017 14:35:13 GMT
Hand to God, this is legitimate. No trickery whatsoever on my part. It took a lot of work and a lot of treatment. Moral of the story; buy panels from Ethan. LOL, excellent.
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Post by Hexspa on Aug 6, 2017 2:28:41 GMT
Ok, I had to throw my hat into the ring. I modified my graph to show the same ranges as yours but, yup, yours win. I did apply a notch at 42Hz and my speakers are about 39" away from my head (but they're aimed 16" behind as per some advice so they're wider from one another than from me). DARN IT! Good job. Thanks.
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