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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 13:38:57 GMT
What frequencies you have found out to be most fatiguing ? What acoustic problems you have found to have a big effect in listening fatigue?
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Post by Michael Lawrence on Dec 19, 2018 14:52:21 GMT
Since the sensitivity of the ear varies over frequency, those frequencies at which the ear is most sensitive will, in general, feel fatigue the fastest. That's a slight oversimplication, and hearing damage can occur at any frequency, so in generally it's not good to beat up your ears, but start here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contourThe lower the threshold, the more sensitivity our ears have there.
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Post by Hexspa on Dec 19, 2018 18:33:25 GMT
I don't really get listening fatigue. Every 15 minutes or so I try to take a short break. When I do audio and music, I tend to listen pretty quietly. My room is calibrated to 62dBC so, when I need that flatter response, I just turn my monitor controller up to 9 o'clock. That's just for brief bursts though.
Recently I did a remix for MetaPop and got feedback saying I had some piercing upper midrange, i.e. the 'fletcher munson area'. Ever since then, when I crank my monitors up, I always pay attention to whether I'm getting that 'icepick to the ear' effect and, if so, notch that area from about 1.5kHz-4.5kHz back some. In his Waves mixing class, Dave Darlington also does this a lot. Since then, I think my mixes have been more mellow when played loudly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 17:30:56 GMT
I seem to be the guy who gets ear fatigue. Every time, always. No matter how much I turn down the treble or upper mids on my speakers. My hearing just changes so much when I start to do audio work. Maybe its my room? Or maybe I'm just overly sensitive to sounds..
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Post by Hexspa on Dec 21, 2018 2:18:17 GMT
Do you take breaks every 15-20 min? That's the natural time period for which we can focus. Look up 'ultradian rhythm' for more. I realize an ultradian rhythm is about 90 min with a 20 min break but every 20 minutes you need a mini break.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 11:09:11 GMT
I try to take breaks, but when recording others they don't really wanna have breaks in every 20minutes.. Maybe i have start to preach about that our subjectivity changes too much to make tone decisions. Longest session i have done was about 16 hours, we left for lunch tho. Don't remember how much breaks we did, that was like 3 years ago. One thing about my room at the moment, it has pretty extraordinary short decay times (rt60). It might cause fatigue to my brain. Biggest reason for that short decay is probably this material i have on my ceiling. Its effective on speech region only, meant for places where there is no other treatment. I put these on the ceiling so long ago, should have tear em down when i converted it to a studio. i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c80671b8-84ff-40f6-960a-fe7e03926022_1.0116fbab01c52e63812d4ad78d0bf157.jpeg?odnHeight=560&odnWidth=560&odnBg=FFFFFF
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Post by Hexspa on Dec 21, 2018 15:02:24 GMT
I guess if you're providing a service for others then you don't always get to dictate the schedule. Maybe the short decay is a factor - good problem to have!
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Post by Trdat on Apr 11, 2019 17:17:12 GMT
I will add that high inflammation in the body can also lead to the sensation that your ears hurt, feel fatigued or the paranoia of loosing your hearing. That by any means doesn't mean that your not loosing your hearing just that it could be that the sensation is exaggerated. Also, take in consideration anything that does increase sensitivity like increase in Thyroid activity. Solution, is technical but just keep this in mind that's all.
Otherwise, I do understand where your coming from and not much you can do other than take Hexpa's advice...
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Post by Hexspa on Apr 11, 2019 19:25:51 GMT
For sure, health seems to be an underrated attribute.
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