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Post by henriliiv on Jul 22, 2020 16:52:58 GMT
Hi Ethan and others on this forum,
I am on my way to putting most of my available cash into a new soundsystem and am on the fence whether I should get nearfield monitors with 6,5-7 inch woofers or smaller monitors and a sub.
My lifestyle requires me to move around twice a year, so I want a universal solution. My studio will always be placed in a bedroom/living room with dimensions 15x13x8 feet or smaller. My rooms will always have corner bass traps and a few broadband absorbtion panels. My budget is up to 3500$
What are your opinions? Is a sub something I should consider with these restrictions that I have or will it just create problems? I want everything I DO decide to put into my room to contribute to the best possible/cleanest audio reproduction and probably will not miss those low frequencies if it makes the rest of the image worse.
All the best,
Henri
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Post by Hexspa on Jul 23, 2020 21:29:15 GMT
I think subs are less about adding low end extension and more about having cleaner bass. If I'm not mistaken, that's what Ethan says in his book. A sub can never harm your imaging unless it's cheap and you have the crossover set too high or the placement is just egregious - you could always just turn it off. It can, however, help you balance your frequency response for the flattest one possible.
In fact, some people advocate having two subs for this purpose. That might be too much if you're moving around every six months but it's something to consider. FWIW, the Yamaha HS8 is pretty flat with good extension. If you could place those optimally, you might not need a sub - but it could still probably help.
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Post by henriliiv on Jul 24, 2020 8:11:25 GMT
Thanks for the opinion! Yes, the idea of a sub/2 subs appeals to me because it seems like it would give me a lot more control over how low frequencies perform in the room. If there is just a large driver taking care of everything, then the options behind the speaker just won't offer the same value.
I had the HS8 for a few years and just recently started looking for new options. It was a clear overkill of bass for me and now my search is for less bass and cleaner, more transient bass. I ordered a bunch of speakers now, will see which ones work out. (Adam S2V, Genelec 8340, Genelec 8341, Eve Audio SC305 + sub, also just tested EVE SC307, Genelec 8040, Adam A7X & A77X)
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Post by Hexspa on Jul 24, 2020 21:12:31 GMT
Cool, let me know. I have the old HS50s now but usually use my mixcube and headphones with the full range system as secondary. Apartment life ain't what it seems  |
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Post by henriliiv on Jul 25, 2020 6:55:56 GMT
Mm yeah. Will do! What would you say is the benefit of using a 5 inch woofer speaker vs a slightly bigger one?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 14:24:20 GMT
Mm yeah. Will do! What would you say is the benefit of using a 5 inch woofer speaker vs a slightly bigger one? It wont reach as low as bigger cones, thus exciting less room modes = not so much low end mud. Your situation is not ideal, you're moving from small room to another small room, which usually takes time to learn mix on. I would definitely buy really good pair of headphones too(if you dont have one already). Sennheiser hd600/650, Neumann NDH 20 or little more expensive; Audeze LCD, Focal Clear Pro.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 14:31:57 GMT
It was a clear overkill of bass for me and now my search is for less bass and cleaner, more transient bass. I ordered a bunch of speakers now, will see which ones work out. (Adam S2V, Genelec 8340, Genelec 8341, Eve Audio SC305 + sub, also just tested EVE SC307, Genelec 8040, Adam A7X & A77X) Did you consider Focal solos? I would definitely call their bass what you just described. But they can get boomy(like everyother speaker) if your room is boomy. |
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Post by henriliiv on Aug 1, 2020 7:09:16 GMT
So I now had time to test everything out and I decided to go with Adam S2V without a sub. It is a beautiful sounding speaker with a lot of calibration options and fits perfectly into my studio sound-wise. Very transient rich but soft sounding high end, quite a forward sounding midrange and a deep, musical bass that is just present enough. I also have Audeze LCD headphones to check the really low stuff. I decided to not try the Focals as they do not offer DSP options in this price range.
From my experience with a sub - if I were to buy subs, I would buy 2 with closed cabinets and DSP. That would probably give an amazing addition to the sound, but It does not seem necessary in any way and at the moment seems like a better idea to put the money on treatment.
Thanks for the inputs, guys!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:49:33 GMT
Well, those go to 35hz already, they are full range!
Do you have pair of high end headphones already?
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Post by henriliiv on Aug 4, 2020 20:19:48 GMT
Yep, Audeze LCD-2 Classic Closed. If you have any other recommendations of high end closed headphones, I would be happy to try! I had Audeze LCD XC but they did not suit my taste.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 11:18:46 GMT
I would try definitely one pair of open or semi open cans. I have yet to hear closed back phones to sound as good as open. Haven't heard those closed Audezes tho, which might be great.
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