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Post by jerryinmaine on Jun 27, 2023 9:31:35 GMT
Overhauling my basement shop which contains a CNC wood router and a dust extraction system. The current room it's in is in a corner and has two concrete walls and floor and two walls of made of OSB. "Ceiling" is just the floor joists of the space above. In operation I measured the sound level with an uncalibrated app downloaded to my iPad. It measured right at 100 dB. Peaks were shown at 800 and 1700 Hz.
The new room it'll be in will have sheetrock on the walls and ceiling. Ceiling will be insulated with fiberglass insulation to help dampen some of the noise that reaches upstairs. Floor will be vinyl on underlayment. The dust collector will be in an insulated closet which should reduce the 800 Hz component.
Looking to make/install absorbing panels on the wall ceiling where the CNC will be to hopefully reduce sound levels to make the environment in there a bit more pleasant to work in. From reading it seems that Rockwool mineral wool is the preferred absorption material. Big box home stores here carry it, but you have to order in quantities much larger than what I'll need. I can get Owens Corning Thermafiber Fire and Sound Guard (R13, R15 & R21) in single packages.
I don't have any related experience in this sort of things and just wanted to see if the efforts might be worthwhile and to seek any advice.
Thanks
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2023 4:38:42 GMT
Hi jerry,
Quickly, please take a look a recent thread "Heavy Velour curtains to reduce (not entirely block) sound".
It involves aspects of sound transmission attenuation as does your question. See if you can get anything out of that thread and please come back with more questions on what your "Soundproofing" needs are i.e. how much.
I think for room acoustic treatment, it's much easier to say the more, the better.
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Post by jerryinmaine on Jun 28, 2023 8:19:10 GMT
Did that... I know I'll have sound from the CNC in the basement reaching upstairs. The fiberglass batt insulation I plan to put in the CNC Room ceiling was just to help reduce that a bit. What I'm mainly concerned with is trying to make the interior of the CNC room itself a bit quieter for me while I'm working in there with the machine running.
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Post by rock on Jun 28, 2023 14:08:10 GMT
So you know you have 2 different issues.
With transmission, make sure your machines are isolated from the floor and walls with isolation mounts. That can solve a lot of upstairs noise. Filling between ceiling joists with regular "fluffy" the full depth will help. If you leave the ceiling open (no dry wall), it will also work as an absorber for your work space but you won't have the mass to help reduce transmission. Try it without drywall first. Another way to add mass the the ceiling in to cut DW in strips and put it up between the joists before insulation.
In your workspace, since you find your noise in the 800 and up region (but if you have lower freqs, thicker is better), you really don't need thick absorption; 2" to 4" thick should be fine. More is better. You can add it incrementally if you want to see how it's working for you.
Be aware that in your workspace, absorption will only work on reflections of the sound from your machines bouncing around inside the room. The absorption cannot reduce the sound source of the machine itself. The only way I know of to do this is to enclose the machine in an air tight heavy enclosure.
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Post by jerryinmaine on Jun 28, 2023 19:39:43 GMT
Thanks. I just wanted to check if absorbing panels might be worth the effort in helping control noise in the shop. Moving the dust collector into its own insulated closet should help tame it’s roar. Can’t do much about the sound from the bit cutting wood, but damping reflected sound is the goal. At present two of my walls and the floor are concrete, the other two walls are OSB. After the remodel all walls/ceiling will be drywall. Haven't decided on the floor yet but it won’t be bare concrete.
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Post by Hexspa on Jun 29, 2023 3:29:12 GMT
I recommend some bluetooth over-ear protection.
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